Saturday, 21 July 2012

Re: [Simply Computers] Emailing: Speedtest.net - The Global Broadband Speed Test

 

First of all, I think this is a reply to my asking you to to give us speed test results. The original instructions included that you paste a link to the actual results and that you reply to the original message we sent you. Without sending us the link to the actual results, we only have part of the picture. Without replying to the original message, we don't have context about the problem you were having. I don't remember what your original problem was, but I assume it was related to the speed of your connection in some way...

This is a fairly slow internet connection by today's standards. It's not really fast enough to watch video online or even listen to some streaming audio (even without video).

We might be able to help you find a more useful Internet connection. What was the original problem you were seeking help with? What city/state do you live in?

--David

On 07/21/2012 01:20 PM, Jacqueline Davidson wrote:
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> How about run the test and share the download speed it reports?
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> Vincent Winterling
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RE: [Simply Computers] Emailing: Speedtest.net - The Global Broadband Speed Test

 

How about run the test and share the download speed it reports?

Vincent Winterling
Vineland, NJ

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Re: [Simply Computers] Emailing: Speedtest.net - The Global Broadband Speed Test

 

Speed test net:
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upload: 0.38 mbps
Ping 58ms
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Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 5:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Simply Computers] Emailing: Speedtest.net - The Global Broadband Speed Test

How about run the test and share the download speed it reports?

Vincent Winterling
Vineland, NJ

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Thursday, 19 July 2012

Re: [Electronics_101] Re: How to test contactor coil

 

Nor in sharing the experience and knowledge.

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> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:43 PM, jimybud <jimybud@casscomm.com> wrote:
> > I will have to hang my head in shame for the first item:
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> > blown fuse (it was difficult to identify it was a fuse housing. I
> > thought it was part of the mounting structure for a bridge). I was
> > able to identify it was an issue by a simple ohms test while
> > tracking down why the "bird was able to sit on the wire without
> > getting shocked".
> >
> > Separately, a terminal had corroded and disconnected the wire from
> > the thermostat control (this issue prevented the heating function of
> > the washer to work and also blew the fuse).
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Re: [Electronics_101] Re: How to test contactor coil

 

There is no shame in learning something.

ST

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> I will have to hang my head in shame for the first item:
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> Separately, a terminal had corroded and disconnected the wire from the thermostat control (this issue prevented the heating function of the washer to work and also blew the fuse).
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I will have to hang my head in shame for the first item:

blown fuse (it was difficult to identify it was a fuse housing. I thought it was part of the mounting structure for a bridge). I was able to identify it was an issue by a simple ohms test while tracking down why the "bird was able to sit on the wire without getting shocked".

Separately, a terminal had corroded and disconnected the wire from the thermostat control (this issue prevented the heating function of the washer to work and also blew the fuse).

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Re: [Electronics_101] Re: How to test contactor coil

 

Good to hear it is working, but what was the fault?

ST

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:16 PM, jimybud <jimybud@casscomm.com> wrote:

> This was good advice and the bird on an a wire analogy make the advise easily understandable. I was able to track down the issue and the pressure washer is working great. (a side note, this is deluxe pressure washer and heats the water up to 230 degrees. I would not have spent two minutes on this project if it did not have the heating functionality).
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[Electronics_101] Re: How to test contactor coil

 

You said:
Had you told us from the start that there is a 24V transformer we would have come to the conclusion much quicker. Instead you fed us details piece by piece, which makes it incredibly difficult to build a picture of what you have there.

Sorry If I had a schematic or wire diagram I would have took a photograph of it and posted it to this thread.

You Said:
you should place the black probe on one side and the red on the other. If both sides of the coil have the same voltage it is like a bird sitting on a high tension wire - it is not energized.

This was good advice and the bird on an a wire analogy make the advise easily understandable. I was able to track down the issue and the pressure washer is working great. (a side note, this is deluxe pressure washer and heats the water up to 230 degrees. I would not have spent two minutes on this project if it did not have the heating functionality).

You said:
I repeat this because you sometimes seem to be hard to instruct. ;-)

This comment was entertaining, i like subtle humor.

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Wednesday, 18 July 2012

Re: [Electronics_101] Re: How to test contactor coil

 

My best guess is that you are planning to to the right thing, a 24V
coil contactor is likely correct, and you are also correct that you
can use the L3 contact instead of another NO contact.

Had you told us from the start that there is a 24V transformer we
would have come to the conclusion much quicker. Instead you fed us
details piece by piece, which makes it incredibly difficult to build a
picture of what you have there.

However your voltmeter reading indicates that there is no voltage
_across_ the coil. The coil only gets energized if there is a voltage
difference, that's why you should place the black probe on one side
and the red on the other. If both sides of the coil have the same
voltage it is like a bird sitting on a high tension wire - it is not
energized.

Your contactor may be good after all. You must find out why it is not
energized.

My guess now is that you are looking at a pressure washer with a
trigger button on the gun. This trigger button is on a 24V circuit for
safety reasons, and that is also why you have the transformer and 24V
contactor.

Again, you must find why the coil is not energized first, unless you
see a voltage across the coil a new contactor will make no difference.
I repeat this because you sometimes seem to be hard to instruct. ;-)
At least this is a German built pressure washer and so it is likely
worth our time fixing it up.

ST

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> You Advised:
> so connect your voltmeter set on ACV to the terminals of the coil and switch the washer on You will see what voltage is applied to the terminals and can buy a contactor accordingly.
>
> I did not perform this exactly as you suggest. I placed my black test lead on one of the two secondary coil wire from the transformer (this was a grounded wire). I then placed my red test lead on each side of the coil terminal of the contactor. My reading was approximately 30 ACV on each side of the contactor.
>
> As important is that even though 30 ACV was passing through the coil of the contactor, the mechanical contactors did not connect. I am therefore a bit more convinced that the contactor is bad.
>
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> You Advised:
> Don't worry too much about the contact ratings, this is a small contactor and they likely took what was available rather than designing to any particular requirement. Most likely any contactor you
> can find will do just fine as long as the coil voltage is right.
>
> I appreciate this advice. I plan to visit the scrap yard tomorrow and see if I can locate an discarded furnace with a three pole 24 volt coil contactor. Otherwise ebay has a few for less than ten dollars.
>
>
> The contactor that I am replacing as L1, L2, L3 and NO (normally open).
>
> The L3 contact is not used, but the NO has wires connected. I am assuming that the NO is just another contactor pole and that generic three pole contactor that does NOT have a NO pole will still work.
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You Advised:
so connect your voltmeter set on ACV to the terminals of the coil and switch the washer on You will see what voltage is applied to the terminals and can buy a contactor accordingly.

I did not perform this exactly as you suggest. I placed my black test lead on one of the two secondary coil wire from the transformer (this was a grounded wire). I then placed my red test lead on each side of the coil terminal of the contactor. My reading was approximately 30 ACV on each side of the contactor.

As important is that even though 30 ACV was passing through the coil of the contactor, the mechanical contactors did not connect. I am therefore a bit more convinced that the contactor is bad.

You Advised:
Don't worry too much about the contact ratings, this is a small contactor and they likely took what was available rather than designing to any particular requirement. Most likely any contactor you
can find will do just fine as long as the coil voltage is right.

I appreciate this advice. I plan to visit the scrap yard tomorrow and see if I can locate an discarded furnace with a three pole 24 volt coil contactor. Otherwise ebay has a few for less than ten dollars.

The contactor that I am replacing as L1, L2, L3 and NO (normally open).

The L3 contact is not used, but the NO has wires connected. I am assuming that the NO is just another contactor pole and that generic three pole contactor that does NOT have a NO pole will still work.

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[Electronics_101] Re: How to test contactor coil

 

Your help has been wonderful. I appreciate the effort.

I have posted some basic questions about a 24 volt transformer. Mostly want to know if the transformer is standard and also to identify the five wires so that I can bench test it to determine if is is OK.

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Re: [Electronics_101] Re: How to test contactor coil

 

At this point I can only say I give up, can you possibly get help from
someone nearby?

Your problem seems to be quite easy to fix, but I find myself unable
to instruct you how to do it.

ST

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