Sunday, 14 August 2016

Re: [7x12minilathe] Test bar from inkjet printer

 

I agree with Ian, I have never encountered a precision rod from a shock absorber or printer that is any better than common drill rod - whether in concentricity, straightness, or consistency over a certain length.

The best thing to do for a test rod, is to make one. Just chuck up some stock in whatever method you have, center drill each end. Then set it up between centers and take light cuts, making adjustments to the tailstock until you get a nice round diameter over its length.


On Sunday, August 14, 2016 5:03 PM, "Ian Newman ian_new@yahoo.com [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Hi Michael,

It is a myth that the bars from the inside of printers are made to extreme levels of accuracy - they are no better than normal ground stock, but usually have the advantage of being free if you can be bothered to strip down machines being thrown out.

Whether the bar will make a useful "test bar" depends on what you are trying to test....

All the best,
Ian

On 15 Aug 2016, at 00:38, 'Michael Jablonski' michaeljab@cox.net [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Well yesterday I disassembled my old inkjet printer (Epson 740). This was done to remove the printer's print head carriage rod which several people here have said would make a good test bar.
 
First let me say that this particular printer does not come apart very easily. I don't know how many tiny Philips head screw needed to be removed, but it was a lot! After thinking several times that this was not worth all the time and effort, I was finally able to remove the print head carriage rod.
 
The rod is about 14.5 inches long but is only 9 mm (0.354") in diameter. Each end is turned down to 0.120" about 0.250" long. I was hoping that the rod would have been center drilled on each end, but no such luck. 
 
I haven't done anything with it yet, but was concerned that the 9mm diameter was a little on the thin side, and that either sag or flex of the rod would render the measurement readings inaccurate.
 
Opinions?

Michael - California, USA
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Re: [7x12minilathe] Test bar from inkjet printer

 

Hi Michael,

It is a myth that the bars from the inside of printers are made to extreme levels of accuracy - they are no better than normal ground stock, but usually have the advantage of being free if you can be bothered to strip down machines being thrown out.

Whether the bar will make a useful "test bar" depends on what you are trying to test....

All the best,
Ian

On 15 Aug 2016, at 00:38, 'Michael Jablonski' michaeljab@cox.net [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Well yesterday I disassembled my old inkjet printer (Epson 740). This was done to remove the printer's print head carriage rod which several people here have said would make a good test bar.
 
First let me say that this particular printer does not come apart very easily. I don't know how many tiny Philips head screw needed to be removed, but it was a lot! After thinking several times that this was not worth all the time and effort, I was finally able to remove the print head carriage rod.
 
The rod is about 14.5 inches long but is only 9 mm (0.354") in diameter. Each end is turned down to 0.120" about 0.250" long. I was hoping that the rod would have been center drilled on each end, but no such luck. 
 
I haven't done anything with it yet, but was concerned that the 9mm diameter was a little on the thin side, and that either sag or flex of the rod would render the measurement readings inaccurate.
 
Opinions?

Michael - California, USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed

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[7x12minilathe] Test bar from inkjet printer

 

Well yesterday I disassembled my old inkjet printer (Epson 740). This was done to remove the printer's print head carriage rod which several people here have said would make a good test bar.
 
First let me say that this particular printer does not come apart very easily. I don't know how many tiny Philips head screw needed to be removed, but it was a lot! After thinking several times that this was not worth all the time and effort, I was finally able to remove the print head carriage rod.
 
The rod is about 14.5 inches long but is only 9 mm (0.354") in diameter. Each end is turned down to 0.120" about 0.250" long. I was hoping that the rod would have been center drilled on each end, but no such luck. 
 
I haven't done anything with it yet, but was concerned that the 9mm diameter was a little on the thin side, and that either sag or flex of the rod would render the measurement readings inaccurate.
 
Opinions?

Michael - California, USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed

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Sunday, 7 August 2016

Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Starrett Last Word Dial Test Indicator ?

 

I will be listing an imperial and mm set with attachments and one case when we return from vacation in a week or so. Only imperfection is inch has a 'catch' every so offer about ¾ through its range and I've never been able to identify the reason. PM me if interested outside eBay environment 
M

On Aug 7, 2016, at 12:57 PM, 'k.dandobbs' k.dandobbs@att.net [SOUTHBENDLATHE] <SOUTHBENDLATHE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Excellent advice.  They show up often and some are priced reasonably. Some are ridiculously priced.  Watch for ones with a box and attachments. 




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Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Starrett Last Word Dial Test Indicator ?

 

Starrett Last Words can usually be picked up quite reasonably on eBay. Thing to do is pick up a few for yourself, rebuild/repair as needed, use one for training. They are quite easy to mend. Accumulate some parts. Keep the best one or two and sell the rest if necessary and probably get your money back and learn how to repair in the process.

Neil B.

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If it's in good shape and not worn out it is a very good indicator for small amounts of runout. It is NOT bi-directional reading. There's a lever to flip to change the direction it reads.

 

A brand new 711FSZ direct from Starrett is $174, looks like all you get for that is the indicator, clamp and a case which in the pic on their site has empty slots for some rods and other things.

 


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I suppose a Starrett Last Word Dial Test Indicator is appropriately fitting and retro for a South Bend lathe, but is it good value for money?

Or, it is obsolete and overpriced?

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RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Starrett Last Word Dial Test Indicator ?

 

Excellent advice.  They show up often and some are priced reasonably. Some are ridiculously priced.  Watch for ones with a box and attachments. 




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Subject: RE: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Starrett Last Word Dial Test Indicator ?

 

Starrett Last Words can usually be picked up quite reasonably on eBay. Thing to do is pick up a few for yourself, rebuild/repair as needed, use one for training. They are quite easy to mend. Accumulate some parts. Keep the best one or two and sell the rest if necessary and probably get your money back and learn how to repair in the process.

Neil B.

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Subject: Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Starrett Last Word Dial Test Indicator ?

 

 

If it's in good shape and not worn out it is a very good indicator for small amounts of runout. It is NOT bi-directional reading. There's a lever to flip to change the direction it reads.

 

A brand new 711FSZ direct from Starrett is $174, looks like all you get for that is the indicator, clamp and a case which in the pic on their site has empty slots for some rods and other things.

 


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I suppose a Starrett Last Word Dial Test Indicator is appropriately fitting and retro for a South Bend lathe, but is it good value for money?

Or, it is obsolete and overpriced?

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Re: [SOUTHBENDLATHE] Starrett Last Word Dial Test Indicator ?

 

I picked up a Starrett 196a dti at the Southeast Ironworks metalworkers Faire in Guthrie, OK, this past May for, IIRC, $60 with all the accessories. Not new, of course, but it appears to work. If I find trouble with it, I'll probably be ahead even if I have to pay to have it fixed. Starrett accessories are not exactly cheap, either. ;)
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If it's in good shape and not worn out it is a very good indicator for small amounts of runout. It is NOT bi-directional reading. There's a lever to flip to change the direction it reads.

A brand new 711FSZ direct from Starrett is $174, looks like all you get for that is the indicator, clamp and a case which in the pic on their site has empty slots for some rods and other things.


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I suppose a Starrett Last Word Dial Test Indicator is appropriately fitting and retro for a South Bend lathe, but is it good value for money?
Or, it is obsolete and overpriced?


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Starrett Last Words can usually be picked up quite reasonably on eBay. Thing to do is pick up a few for yourself, rebuild/repair as needed, use one for training. They are quite easy to mend. Accumulate some parts. Keep the best one or two and sell the rest if necessary and probably get your money back and learn how to repair in the process.

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If it's in good shape and not worn out it is a very good indicator for small amounts of runout. It is NOT bi-directional reading. There's a lever to flip to change the direction it reads.

 

A brand new 711FSZ direct from Starrett is $174, looks like all you get for that is the indicator, clamp and a case which in the pic on their site has empty slots for some rods and other things.

 


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I suppose a Starrett Last Word Dial Test Indicator is appropriately fitting and retro for a South Bend lathe, but is it good value for money?

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