Wednesday, 25 April 2018

Re: [Amateur-repairs] Test 4th attempt to post, my messages to group disappear

 

NOTE: My apologies if this appears twice. The first one was sent via the email response address, and this one through the Yahoo site interface. Let's see which one appears! Also, I had a difficult time logging into Yahoo, and notice that fully half of the groups I belonged to once (even as dead as they were) are now gone from my membership list. I am thinking that 'Oath' has done a bit of housekeeping here...


Not necessarily true. I was the first to reply to the "Hand Tools" thread--and watching it cycle through several times:

***This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 72 hours on the queue on vps25955.inmotionhosting.com.

The message identifier is: 1f9888-0007jG-MG
The subject of the message is: RE: [Amateur-repairs] Hand tools
The date of the message is: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 07:53:35 -0400

The address to which the message has not yet been delivered is:

Amateur-repairs@yahoogroups.com mailto:Amateur-repairs@yahoogroups.com
host fo-mx-groups.mail.am0.yahoodns.net [98.138.113.36]

No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up, and when that happens, the message will be returned to you.***










The last one dropped in on Monday:

**** This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

Amateur-repairs@yahoogroups.com mailto:Amateur-repairs@yahoogroups.com
host fo-mx-groups.mail.am0.yahoodns.net [98.138.113.36]
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So while there may be a problem rejecting 'service' emails, it looks like the system has an issue with its own email addresses given to groups. People have grumbled about Yahoo and these groups for years. Perhaps as Don, K5ZRQ suggests (once again here) perhaps it's time to move on. I have thought so for years now. Another service (ad supported) or something hosted by the group itself on a VPS.

PT

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Have you tried the highest rated email app?
With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.

TO UNSUBSCRIBE: login to groups.yahoo.com, select group amateur-repairs, click on "leave group" on right side of screen and follow instructions.  PLEASE do not send UNSUBSCRIBE messages to the list.

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Re: [Amateur-repairs] Test 4th attempt to post, my messages to group disappear

 

I use Yahoo Mail and Google Mail and have never had a problem.

Lou WA5LOU

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 12:42 PM John Becker w0jab@big-river.net
[Amateur-repairs] <Amateur-repairs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
> the problem seems to be only with web based email users (yahoo gmail
> hotmail.)
>
> never have had a problem myself.
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> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: login to groups.yahoo.com, select group amateur-repairs,
> click on "leave group" on right side of screen and follow instructions.
> PLEASE do not send UNSUBSCRIBE messages to the list.
> ------------------------------------
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> Yahoo Groups Links
>
>
>
> --
Lou Everett, Sr., WA5LOU
Telephone: 317-749-9883

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*No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."*

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Have you tried the highest rated email app?
With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.

TO UNSUBSCRIBE: login to groups.yahoo.com, select group amateur-repairs, click on "leave group" on right side of screen and follow instructions.  PLEASE do not send UNSUBSCRIBE messages to the list.

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Re: [Amateur-repairs] Test 4th attempt to post, my messages to group disappear

 

Agreed! Since Verizon took over Yahoo (And AOL,) I've had many, many problems with both sites. And now that they have updated their Privacy Policy's, I will NOT be sending any E-mail thru web based sites. I was one of the first 5,000 on AOL in 92. I HATE to leave them, but their new policy, leaves me little choice.
FYI- I use ZoomInternet as my standard E-mail site. ( I use Proton Mail for my confidential stuff.) Google "Proton Mail" to get a understanding just HOW E-mail should be. (Without "big brother" interference.)

David V Colton-ARS KJ4PF
dvc3565@aol.com

-----Original Message-----
From: John Becker w0jab@big-river.net [Amateur-repairs] <Amateur-repairs@yahoogroups.com>
To: Amateur-repairs <Amateur-repairs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 1:42 pm
Subject: Re: [Amateur-repairs] Test 4th attempt to post, my messages to group disappear

the problem seems to be only with web based email users (yahoo gmail
hotmail.)

never have had a problem myself.

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Posted by: David V Colton <dvc3565@aol.com>
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Have you tried the highest rated email app?
With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.

TO UNSUBSCRIBE: login to groups.yahoo.com, select group amateur-repairs, click on "leave group" on right side of screen and follow instructions.  PLEASE do not send UNSUBSCRIBE messages to the list.

.

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Re: [Amateur-repairs] Test 4th attempt to post, my messages to group disappear

the problem seems to be only with web based email users (yahoo gmail
hotmail.)

never have had a problem myself.



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<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amateur-repairs/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amateur-repairs/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
Amateur-repairs-digest@yahoogroups.com
Amateur-repairs-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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<*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to:
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Re: [Amateur-repairs] Test 4th attempt to post, my messages to group disappear

Seems to be working. I am another who has had intermittent
problems with Yahoo.

On 4/25/2018 5:00 AM, lhouseparker@livingston.net
[Amateur-repairs] wrote:
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> In the past few days I've tried replying to posts on this group from my home Email client, and then tried to make a new topic, but they have not showed up as posted in my inbox, nor do they appear online in the group's web address at yahoogroups.com - they just vanished, with no failure to deliver message coming back. I know they went out because I CC'd to another address and they went through OK. This time I'm trying by directly logging on to this Yahoo group via the web.
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> This never happened in the past. I can still send Emails to and from my Yahoo address, and I still receive posts from various groups made by other users, but suddenly I cannot post anything to groups either via my home Email client or via Yahoo Mail. Now when I reply directly via Yahoo Mail to a post I received from another group, I get back a delivery failure message from Yahoo's "MAILER-DAEMON" saying:
>
>
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>> Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message....
>
>> Unable to deliver message after multiple retries, giving up.
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> So Yahoo Mail is now saying they cannot deliver a message to some of their own active groups. Does anyone know what's going on? This seems to be following Verizon's taking over Yahoo (now part of the Oath media company, they say) - are they blocking new posts? When I log on to Yahoo mail service they now pop up a "new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy" that lays out what seems to me to be rather invasive requirements allowing them to do whatever they want with all your messages, photos, activities, across all your devices, etc., and then add an arbitration clause limiting your ability to complain. This looks like the same behavior that Facebook is currently being criticized for.
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> If this is so than I would suggest that Amateur Repairs consider leaving Yahoo Groups and moving to another service.
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> 73
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> John KE5ZB
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>


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Yahoo Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amateur-repairs/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amateur-repairs/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
Amateur-repairs-digest@yahoogroups.com
Amateur-repairs-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Amateur-repairs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to:
https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/

Re: [Amateur-repairs] Test 4th attempt to post, my messages to group disappear

 

Seeing same problem when emailing or replying using other groups also.  They must have messed up something.

Don T. -- K5ZRQ

On ‎Wednesday‎, ‎April‎ ‎25‎, ‎2018‎ ‎07‎:‎01‎:‎46‎ ‎AM‎ ‎CDT, lhouseparker@livingston.net [Amateur-repairs] <Amateur-repairs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

In the past few days I've tried replying to posts on this group from my home Email client, and then tried to make a new topic, but they have not showed up as posted in my inbox, nor do they appear online in the group's web address at yahoogroups.com - they just vanished, with no failure to deliver message coming back. I know they went out because I CC'd to another address and they went through OK. This time I'm trying by directly logging on to this Yahoo group via the web.



This never happened in the past. I can still send Emails to and from my Yahoo address, and I still receive posts from various groups made by other users, but suddenly I cannot post anything to groups either via my home Email client or via Yahoo Mail. Now when I reply directly via Yahoo Mail to a post I received from another group, I get back a delivery failure message from Yahoo's "MAILER-DAEMON" saying:

> Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message....
> Unable to deliver message after multiple retries, giving up.


So Yahoo Mail is now saying they cannot deliver a message to some of their own active groups. Does anyone know what's going on? This seems to be following Verizon's taking over Yahoo (now part of the Oath media company, they say) - are they blocking new posts? When I log on to Yahoo mail service they now pop up a "new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy" that lays out what seems to me to be rather invasive requirements allowing them to do whatever they want with all your messages, photos, activities, across all your devices, etc., and then add an arbitration clause limiting your ability to complain. This looks like the same behavior that Facebook is currently being criticized for.



If this is so than I would suggest that Amateur Repairs consider leaving Yahoo Groups and moving to another service.


73

John KE5ZB



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Posted by: Don Thomas <satranger1@yahoo.com>
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Have you tried the highest rated email app?
With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.

TO UNSUBSCRIBE: login to groups.yahoo.com, select group amateur-repairs, click on "leave group" on right side of screen and follow instructions.  PLEASE do not send UNSUBSCRIBE messages to the list.

.

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[Amateur-repairs] Test 4th attempt to post, my messages to group disappear

 


In the past few days I've tried replying to posts on this group from my home Email client, and then tried to make a new topic, but they have not showed up as posted in my inbox, nor do they appear online in the group's web address at yahoogroups.com - they just vanished, with no failure to deliver message coming back. I know they went out because I CC'd to another address and they went through OK. This time I'm trying by directly logging on to this Yahoo group via the web.



This never happened in the past. I can still send Emails to and from my Yahoo address, and I still receive posts from various groups made by other users, but suddenly I cannot post anything to groups either via my home Email client or via Yahoo Mail. Now when I reply directly via Yahoo Mail to a post I received from another group, I get back a delivery failure message from Yahoo's "MAILER-DAEMON" saying:

> Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message....
> Unable to deliver message after multiple retries, giving up.


So Yahoo Mail is now saying they cannot deliver a message to some of their own active groups. Does anyone know what's going on? This seems to be following Verizon's taking over Yahoo (now part of the Oath media company, they say) - are they blocking new posts? When I log on to Yahoo mail service they now pop up a "new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy" that lays out what seems to me to be rather invasive requirements allowing them to do whatever they want with all your messages, photos, activities, across all your devices, etc., and then add an arbitration clause limiting your ability to complain. This looks like the same behavior that Facebook is currently being criticized for.



If this is so than I would suggest that Amateur Repairs consider leaving Yahoo Groups and moving to another service.


73

John KE5ZB




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Posted by: lhouseparker@livingston.net
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Have you tried the highest rated email app?
With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.

TO UNSUBSCRIBE: login to groups.yahoo.com, select group amateur-repairs, click on "leave group" on right side of screen and follow instructions.  PLEASE do not send UNSUBSCRIBE messages to the list.

.

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