Saturday, 1 December 2012

Re: [Simply Computers] How Best to Test Seagate ST31500341AS

 

Ellen--
Ardell's advice, below, is very sound, as usual. However, Let me add
something. As soon as possible, get (Or use, if you have one) an extra HDD
to use as a back-up, and make an Image of your system, just in case. (You
should have one, anyway) This way, is the drive IS bad, you can replace it
and reload the system, and be where you are now.
Bill--W4BSG

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From: Ardell Faul
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 5:38 PM
To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] How Best to Test Seagate ST31500341AS

I like HDAT2 which is available in Hiren's boot CD. You can download
the .iso file easily and use it to make a bootable CD. Then boot up
with it and go to DOS Tools, Hard Drive utilities, HDAT2 and let it run
a full test of your hard drive. It even can repair bad sectors and make
the drive readable if it is failing so you can clone it whiel the
cloning is still possible.

Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
ardell@icehouse.net
509-891-5188

On 12/1/2012 3:04 PM, ejhberg wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> My system is a Dell Studio XPS 9100, Win 7 Home Premium, with a
> Seagate ST31500341AS 1.5T Serial ATA 2 HD. A couple of days ago when I
> closed Outlook 2007 a Microsoft Office Diagnostics window opened and
> asked if I wanted to find out why Outlook was crashing so much. I ran
> the diagnostics, and although it could not determine why Outlook was
> crashing, I got information that the hard drive was going to "crash"
> soon (or words to that effect).
> I would like to run some diagnostics tests on the HD to see if the
> hard drive is in danger of crashing very soon. I purchased this system
> almost exactly two years ago, and am hoping that the Office
> Diagnostics are not accurate, but want to be sure.
> What do you recommend? Is Seatools still a reliable way to go? Should
> I run the DOS version over the Windows version?
> Any other suggestions you can give will be appreciated. Please let me
> know if you need more information.
> Thanks,
> Ellen
>
>

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Re: [Simply Computers] How Best to Test Seagate ST31500341AS

 

I like HDAT2 which is available in Hiren's boot CD. You can download
the .iso file easily and use it to make a bootable CD. Then boot up
with it and go to DOS Tools, Hard Drive utilities, HDAT2 and let it run
a full test of your hard drive. It even can repair bad sectors and make
the drive readable if it is failing so you can clone it whiel the
cloning is still possible.

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10816 E. Mission Ave.,
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ardell@icehouse.net
509-891-5188

On 12/1/2012 3:04 PM, ejhberg wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> My system is a Dell Studio XPS 9100, Win 7 Home Premium, with a
> Seagate ST31500341AS 1.5T Serial ATA 2 HD. A couple of days ago when I
> closed Outlook 2007 a Microsoft Office Diagnostics window opened and
> asked if I wanted to find out why Outlook was crashing so much. I ran
> the diagnostics, and although it could not determine why Outlook was
> crashing, I got information that the hard drive was going to "crash"
> soon (or words to that effect).
> I would like to run some diagnostics tests on the HD to see if the
> hard drive is in danger of crashing very soon. I purchased this system
> almost exactly two years ago, and am hoping that the Office
> Diagnostics are not accurate, but want to be sure.
> What do you recommend? Is Seatools still a reliable way to go? Should
> I run the DOS version over the Windows version?
> Any other suggestions you can give will be appreciated. Please let me
> know if you need more information.
> Thanks,
> Ellen
>
>

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Re: [Simply Computers] How Best to Test Seagate ST31500341AS

 

I still use Seatools for windows

Mike Stone

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Sent: Sat, Dec 1, 2012 3:04 pm
Subject: [Simply Computers] How Best to Test Seagate ST31500341AS

Hi all,
My system is a Dell Studio XPS 9100, Win 7 Home Premium, with a Seagate ST31500341AS 1.5T Serial ATA 2 HD. A couple of days ago when I closed Outlook 2007 a Microsoft Office Diagnostics window opened and asked if I wanted to find out why Outlook was crashing so much. I ran the diagnostics, and although it could not determine why Outlook was crashing, I got information that the hard drive was going to "crash" soon (or words to that effect).
I would like to run some diagnostics tests on the HD to see if the hard drive is in danger of crashing very soon. I purchased this system almost exactly two years ago, and am hoping that the Office Diagnostics are not accurate, but want to be sure.
What do you recommend? Is Seatools still a reliable way to go? Should I run the DOS version over the Windows version?
Any other suggestions you can give will be appreciated. Please let me know if you need more information.
Thanks,
Ellen

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[Simply Computers] How Best to Test Seagate ST31500341AS

 

Hi all,
My system is a Dell Studio XPS 9100, Win 7 Home Premium, with a Seagate ST31500341AS 1.5T Serial ATA 2 HD. A couple of days ago when I closed Outlook 2007 a Microsoft Office Diagnostics window opened and asked if I wanted to find out why Outlook was crashing so much. I ran the diagnostics, and although it could not determine why Outlook was crashing, I got information that the hard drive was going to "crash" soon (or words to that effect).
I would like to run some diagnostics tests on the HD to see if the hard drive is in danger of crashing very soon. I purchased this system almost exactly two years ago, and am hoping that the Office Diagnostics are not accurate, but want to be sure.
What do you recommend? Is Seatools still a reliable way to go? Should I run the DOS version over the Windows version?
Any other suggestions you can give will be appreciated. Please let me know if you need more information.
Thanks,
Ellen

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Saturday, 17 November 2012

Re: [Amateur-repairs] An accurate test meter

 

I have a Q meter and I find that this is good for a small inductance, it
goes up to !00 MHz but it does involve a calculation. However Microsoft
Excel can be made so that you can just type a value in and the answer
appears.

Regards

Barrie

On 16 November 2012 15:10, Dwayne <masterdr@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hello Gary,
>
> I think you have said it best. With a Fluke, Signal generator, and
> frequency counter, you have it made. . .tuned circuit least resistance,
> have the frequency, and use your calculator. Accurate as ever, can be
> setup on small circuit board for easily repeated use.
>
> Another thing like could work is a LR circuit. . .same idea. . .you can
> even change the resistor to values that will allow you to measure far
> beyond your signal generator.
>
> Great to hear from ya!
>
> --- On Thu, 11/15/12, Garey Barrell <k4oah@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> From: Garey Barrell <k4oah@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amateur-repairs] An accurate test meter
> To: Amateur-repairs@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 2:19 PM
>
>
>
> Paul -
>
> No-one is addressing the 'real' shortcoming of ALL of these testers. I've
> used the AADE meters for
>
> years, and they are reliable and accurate. The shortcoming is that ALL of
> these units make their
>
> measurements at 100 - 200 kHz. This works great for air wound coils, but
> throw in a toroid of
>
> 'some' permeability that is frequency sensitive. These are NOT going to
> read the same at 100 kHz as
>
> they will at 25 MHz.
>
> So you are limited to either a fairly expensive piece of equipment (Rx
> meter, VNA, etc.,) -OR-
>
> simply resonating the coil with a known capacitor and using your
> calculator.
>
> 73, Garey - K4OAH
>
> Glen Allen, VA
>
> Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
>
> and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
>
> <www.k4oah.com>
>
> Malti wrote:
>
> > Look what I found ! If what they claim is correct, both the price and
>
> > performance from small rf coils is the ideal
>
> >
>
> >
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LC301-SMD-nH-inductance-tester-meter-/190649692728?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D3450789443300401684%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D190649692728%26
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Paul
>
> >
>
> > On 13 November 2012 20:37, Kent Andersen <sci@altazip.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> **
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> I use one of these
>
> >>
>
> >>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/MASTECH-LCR-Meter-backlight-data-hold-diode-AC-DC-A-V-/180501175255?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a06b55bd7
>
> >> its performed quite well and for the price you cant beat it.
>
> >>
>
> >> Kent
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> On 11/13/2012 4:52 AM, pauldebono@rocketmail.com wrote:
>
> >>> I am searching for a good L meter, that can measure low to very low RF
>
> >>> inductances. The various kits and models around based on a PIC and the
>
> >>> LM311, are not good enough. So are these commercial multimeter types.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> I came across the M3 or M-Cubed LCZR meter, which Monty, N5ESE, has
>
> >>> reviewed and compared with the top, industry standard, the Philips
>
> >>> PM6303 LCR Meter (now made by Fluke). Unfortunately , this meter kit
>
> >>> is no longer in production. See: http://www.n5ese.com/M3LCR_meter.htm
>
> >>>
>
> >>> However, a Metacrawler search, came up with an updated version of this
>
> >>> meter:
>
> >>> (It is in French, but their sales department have an English version
>
> >>> of the manual.)
>
> >>> http://www.mwinstruments.com/MW1008/MW1008_f.html
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Paul
>
> >>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Friday, 16 November 2012

Re: [Amateur-repairs] An accurate test meter

 

Yep, the signal generator/frequency counter is the most accurate,
especially ferrite stuff. The inductance is dependent on the applied
frequency.
As a matter of interest, I came across this cheap, yet pro like LC301 on
ebay. None of the scores of LC meters around, using the LM311 and a pic,
including very popular ones, make use of the Kelvin probes !:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150712238255?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&
_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Paul

On 16 November 2012 16:10, Dwayne <masterdr@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hello Gary,
>
> I think you have said it best. With a Fluke, Signal generator, and
> frequency counter, you have it made. . .tuned circuit least resistance,
> have the frequency, and use your calculator. Accurate as ever, can be
> setup on small circuit board for easily repeated use.
>
> Another thing like could work is a LR circuit. . .same idea. . .you can
> even change the resistor to values that will allow you to measure far
> beyond your signal generator.
>
> Great to hear from ya!
>
> --- On Thu, 11/15/12, Garey Barrell <k4oah@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> From: Garey Barrell <k4oah@mindspring.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [Amateur-repairs] An accurate test meter
> To: Amateur-repairs@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 2:19 PM
>
>
>
>
> Paul -
>
> No-one is addressing the 'real' shortcoming of ALL of these testers. I've
> used the AADE meters for
>
> years, and they are reliable and accurate. The shortcoming is that ALL of
> these units make their
>
> measurements at 100 - 200 kHz. This works great for air wound coils, but
> throw in a toroid of
>
> 'some' permeability that is frequency sensitive. These are NOT going to
> read the same at 100 kHz as
>
> they will at 25 MHz.
>
> So you are limited to either a fairly expensive piece of equipment (Rx
> meter, VNA, etc.,) -OR-
>
> simply resonating the coil with a known capacitor and using your
> calculator.
>
> 73, Garey - K4OAH
>
> Glen Allen, VA
>
> Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
>
> and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
>
> <www.k4oah.com>
>
> Malti wrote:
>
> > Look what I found ! If what they claim is correct, both the price and
>
> > performance from small rf coils is the ideal
>
> >
>
> >
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LC301-SMD-nH-inductance-tester-meter-/190649692728?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D3450789443300401684%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D190649692728%26
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Paul
>
> >
>
> > On 13 November 2012 20:37, Kent Andersen <sci@altazip.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> **
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> I use one of these
>
> >>
>
> >>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/MASTECH-LCR-Meter-backlight-data-hold-diode-AC-DC-A-V-/180501175255?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a06b55bd7
>
> >> its performed quite well and for the price you cant beat it.
>
> >>
>
> >> Kent
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> On 11/13/2012 4:52 AM, pauldebono@rocketmail.com wrote:
>
> >>> I am searching for a good L meter, that can measure low to very low RF
>
> >>> inductances. The various kits and models around based on a PIC and the
>
> >>> LM311, are not good enough. So are these commercial multimeter types.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> I came across the M3 or M-Cubed LCZR meter, which Monty, N5ESE, has
>
> >>> reviewed and compared with the top, industry standard, the Philips
>
> >>> PM6303 LCR Meter (now made by Fluke). Unfortunately , this meter kit
>
> >>> is no longer in production. See: http://www.n5ese.com/M3LCR_meter.htm
>
> >>>
>
> >>> However, a Metacrawler search, came up with an updated version of this
>
> >>> meter:
>
> >>> (It is in French, but their sales department have an English version
>
> >>> of the manual.)
>
> >>> http://www.mwinstruments.com/MW1008/MW1008_f.html
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Paul
>
> >>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Re: [Amateur-repairs] An accurate test meter

 

  Hello Gary,

  I think you have said it best.  With a Fluke, Signal generator, and frequency counter, you have it made. . .tuned circuit least resistance, have the frequency, and use your calculator.   Accurate as ever, can be setup on small circuit board for easily repeated use.

   Another thing like could work is a LR circuit. . .same idea. . .you can even change the resistor to values that will allow you to measure far beyond your signal generator.

Great to hear from ya!

--- On Thu, 11/15/12, Garey Barrell <k4oah@mindspring.com> wrote:

From: Garey Barrell <k4oah@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [Amateur-repairs] An accurate test meter
To: Amateur-repairs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 2:19 PM

 

Paul -

No-one is addressing the 'real' shortcoming of ALL of these testers. I've used the AADE meters for

years, and they are reliable and accurate. The shortcoming is that ALL of these units make their

measurements at 100 - 200 kHz. This works great for air wound coils, but throw in a toroid of

'some' permeability that is frequency sensitive. These are NOT going to read the same at 100 kHz as

they will at 25 MHz.

So you are limited to either a fairly expensive piece of equipment (Rx meter, VNA, etc.,) -OR-

simply resonating the coil with a known capacitor and using your calculator.

73, Garey - K4OAH

Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line

and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs

<www.k4oah.com>

Malti wrote:

> Look what I found ! If what they claim is correct, both the price and

> performance from small rf coils is the ideal

>

> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LC301-SMD-nH-inductance-tester-meter-/190649692728?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D3450789443300401684%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D190649692728%26

>

>

> Paul

>

> On 13 November 2012 20:37, Kent Andersen <sci@altazip.com> wrote:

>

>> **

>>

>>

>> I use one of these

>>

>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/MASTECH-LCR-Meter-backlight-data-hold-diode-AC-DC-A-V-/180501175255?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a06b55bd7

>> its performed quite well and for the price you cant beat it.

>>

>> Kent

>>

>>

>> On 11/13/2012 4:52 AM, pauldebono@rocketmail.com wrote:

>>> I am searching for a good L meter, that can measure low to very low RF

>>> inductances. The various kits and models around based on a PIC and the

>>> LM311, are not good enough. So are these commercial multimeter types.

>>>

>>> I came across the M3 or M-Cubed LCZR meter, which Monty, N5ESE, has

>>> reviewed and compared with the top, industry standard, the Philips

>>> PM6303 LCR Meter (now made by Fluke). Unfortunately , this meter kit

>>> is no longer in production. See: http://www.n5ese.com/M3LCR_meter.htm

>>>

>>> However, a Metacrawler search, came up with an updated version of this

>>> meter:

>>> (It is in French, but their sales department have an English version

>>> of the manual.)

>>> http://www.mwinstruments.com/MW1008/MW1008_f.html

>>>

>>> Paul

>>>

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